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I’m guessing Sprong would be off be table?

I’m guessing Sprong would be off be table?
- FinnGod

My opinion is that the Pens would move Sprong if they felt the deal was right and made them better than they'd be with Sprong in the next few years. I get the feeling theyre not super attached to the guy.

Could Jarry be a key component in a move like this?

Sheary + Jarry

My opinion is that the Pens would move Sprong if they felt the deal was right and made them better than they'd be with Sprong in the next few years. I get the feeling theyre not super attached to the guy.
- MattStrat

It's been rumored the coach isn't super attached to the guy. I think Rutherford feels differently. Sort of like the Kessel situation. Sullivan has to get over himself with some of these guys. Not everybody is going to be a constant 200' player.

You have to be real careful when moving someone like Sprong. He could be a young, fairly cheap goal scorer for the remainder of our window. Dude has a legit NHL shot. You just need the other wing on his line be a Rust/Hags (defensively conscious) kind of player.

Could Jarry be a key component in a move like this?

Sheary + Jarry
- Rinosaur

If we deal Jarry (which I think is a mistake), we would definitely need a competent backup. I'm not exactly sold on Desmith at this point. If we still had Gustavsson, Jarry would be a great trade candidate.

Overpayment required to keep him inter division. Much rather move him to STL.

Overpayment required to keep him inter division. Much rather move him to STL.
- gocanes0506

Wouldnt you want an over payment?

If we deal Jarry (which I think is a mistake), we would definitely need a competent backup. I'm not exactly sold on Desmith at this point. If we still had Gustavsson, Jarry would be a great trade candidate.
- madmike71

Not saying we need to trade Jarry or anything, but for what it is worth there are a bunch of UFA goalie options that could be had for around that 1M range to backup a season or two.

If we deal Jarry (which I think is a mistake), we would definitely need a competent backup. I'm not exactly sold on Desmith at this point. If we still had Gustavsson, Jarry would be a great trade candidate.
- madmike71

The Pens will have to deal Jarry eventually. Jarry is not a backup goalie. There are actually some solid names out there in the UFA market this off-season. I'm aware they will cost more than Jarry, but the win-fall of getting someone like Skinner would be worth it IMO.

What about offering Murray? He's not elite, but good and cost controlled.

It's been rumored the coach isn't super attached to the guy. I think Rutherford feels differently. Sort of like the Kessel situation. Sullivan has to get over himself with some of these guys. Not everybody is going to be a constant 200' player.

You have to be real careful when moving someone like Sprong. He could be a young, fairly cheap goal scorer for the remainder of our window. Dude has a legit NHL shot. You just need the other wing on his line be a Rust/Hags (defensively conscious) kind of player.
- madmike71

Personally, I dont think there is a Kessel situation. I think its overblown media fabricated BS.

With regards to Sprong, if he doesnt want to play the system the coach wants him to play, or the system everyone else is playing, then he wont play. This is a team sport not an individual sport. Having said this the young mans metrics were top notch in every regard in his small sample size. Who really knows whats up behind the scenes.

I feel quite a few people on these boards dont appreciate, understand or respect the coaches role enough. Its a bigger deal than some give credit for. It seems all of a sudden there's disdain for Sully creeping in after bowing out in the 2nd round. Them losing wasnt the coaches fault...unless of course the blame is for him coaching them to playing so much fatiguing hockey and greatness the past few years.

He's not elite, but good and cost controlled.
- sammy87

You answered exactly why you DON'T move him.

Plus, I'm not ready to say he's not elite yet. He's shown all the tools and abilities of an elite goalie and all the faults/pitfalls of inexperience. I think sometimes we forget how young he is and how long he's been in the league.

The Pens will have to deal Jarry eventually. Jarry is not a backup goalie. There are actually some solid names out there in the UFA market this off-season. I'm aware they will cost more than Jarry, but the win-fall of getting someone like Skinner would be worth it IMO.
- Rinosaur

What do you base this on?

Personally, I dont think there is a Kessel situation. I think its overblown media fabricated BS.
- MattStrat

This.

What's starting to become a glaring "read between the lines" type of thing is all the praise I'm reading for Oleksiak being regarded as a top-four dman by the Pens' org.

If there's any writing on the wall, we could see someone like Maatta being being moved to upgrade the forward position... which I'd personally hate.

I'll beat the dead horse and say the Pens shouldn't do anything significant. If they can tweak the lineup by moving out Sheary and Hunwick along with maybe Simon and some mid-round picks, then I think that's the route they should go.

What do you base this on?
- MattStrat

Watching hockey.

Skinner is definitely intruiging. I think this could be a ploy by JR to get leverage while he has his sets sight on someone like Paciorretty. If it wasn't in the division I could see it facilitating.

Paraykos name emerging in the trade market is really interesting. Wonder if theres any chance of a Kessel/Parayko based deal with lots of other pieces thrown in.

Skinner is definitely intruiging. I think this could be a ploy by JR to get leverage while he has his sets sight on someone like Paciorretty. If it wasn't in the division I could see it facilitating.

Paraykos name emerging in the trade market is really interesting. Wonder if theres any chance of a Kessel/Parayko based deal with lots of other pieces thrown in.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Kessel & Schultz for Parayko? If he is available, Parayko is a guy worth overpaying for.

Kessel & Schultz for Parayko? If he is available, Parayko is a guy worth overpaying for.
- MacPatty

That's honestly tempting. In a vacuum it sefinitely doesn't make us a better team for 2018...but we'd also have $7M in cap space to sign a winger. It also sets us up very well long term having a number true 1 RHD that allows Letang to conserve minutes (or even be traded one day).

Without looking I highly doubt St Louis has the cap space to make that work...so prob more tinkering would need to be done.

The Pens will have to deal Jarry eventually. Jarry is not a backup goalie. There are actually some solid names out there in the UFA market this off-season. I'm aware they will cost more than Jarry, but the win-fall of getting someone like Skinner would be worth it IMO.
- Rinosaur

A guy like Eddie Lack would be a great back-up option. No problem with him starting if Murray gets injured.

Personally, I dont think there is a Kessel situation. I think its overblown media fabricated BS.

With regards to Sprong, if he doesnt want to play the system the coach wants him to play, or the system everyone else is playing, then he wont play. This is a team sport not an individual sport. Having said this the young mans metrics were top notch in every regard in his small sample size. Who really knows whats up behind the scenes.

I feel quite a few people on these boards dont appreciate, understand or respect the coaches role enough. Its a bigger deal than some give credit for. It seems all of a sudden there's disdain for Sully creeping in after bowing out in the 2nd round. Them losing wasnt the coaches fault...unless of course the blame is for him coaching them to playing so much fatiguing hockey and greatness the past few years.
- MattStrat

Usually I'd agree about these situations being overblown, except for so many credible reporters putting their names on these "rumors".

I respect Sullivan tremendously. I don't think he had a good year last season. It obviously didn't undo his success the two previous seasons, but he crept into Bylsma territory with some of his choices.

I fully believe the loss to the Caps had more to do with team fatigue than anything else, but I thought Dom Simon on the first line was flat out ridiculous when he had other options. A couple other things were pretty ridiculous too.

With a lack of draft picks, I don’t know how the pens could trade for Skinner. He easily can get a 1st round pick. Unless the canes overvalue Sheary, I don’t think the pens have a good chance

With a lack of draft picks, I don’t know how the pens could trade for Skinner. He easily can get a 1st round pick. Unless the canes overvalue Sheary, I don’t think the pens have a good chance
- drummer829

Canes would want Maatta IMO.

Canes would want Maatta IMO.
- Rinosaur

Why though? They have plenty of young D. And I think trading Maatta for a rental would be foolish.

I could see them wanting Brassard or Sprong more than Maatta.

Why though? They have plenty of young D. And I think trading Maatta for a rental would be foolish.

I could see them wanting Brassard or Sprong more than Maatta.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Hey, if Hanifin and Faulk are on the block there's gotta be some reason.